Hello ladies and fellas,
Hope everyone has been well. Not a large
update this time around, and it's already a bit outdated. Hope people
might still find some things that interest them.
distro, i'm trying to slim things down a bit. So i'm running a slight
sale. All LPs are $3.00 off, 7"s are $1.50 off, and tapes are $1.00 off.
Please email me direct with a list of what you'd like because the
prices are not marked down in the webstore. Also, if something is listed
as $X.50 round down the .50¢ before factoring in the discount. For
example, a $12.50 LP = $9.00. If it's $12.00 to start with, it's still
$9.00. Email with any questions.
On the label side of things, i
know i'd begun to advertise some releases previously. Some things
changed, and as of now the only release scheduled on the label is a
Peacebreakers 7". These guys have just released their debut 7", and i
really recommend it for fans of early '80s Boston and NYC hardcore.
Negative Insight #2 featuring interviews with Chaos UK, Disorder, and
Riot City Records will also be coming out this year. It will contain a
7" of two rare studio tracks from the early '80s as well. More info next
The write up section of this email update contains
an interview with Pete Giles. That's probably not a household name for
most hardcore punk fans, but Pete was the bassist or guitarist in such
bands as Unseen Terror, Azag-Thoth, Insight, Antichrist, Harmony As One,
and others. With the exception of Unseen Terror, most of those bands
are not the most well known either. But it's Pete's proximity and
associations with the main players in bands such as Napalm Death,
Heresy, Sacrilege, and many others is what makes his anecdotes and
insight so interesting. And he was willing to recount them candidly,
undiluted, and with complete honesty. If you were to draw a family tree
of all the British bands 1985-1992 that all shared members, Pete would
be all over it.
Starting in Antichrist, who were one of the
absolute earliest extreme metal bands to come from England, Pete was
involved right from the get go. Even though he doesn't play on their
only recorded songs, two tracks on the "The Bailey Brothers Present
Diminished Responsibility" compilation LP, Antichrist are both excellent
and important for their contribution in ushering in the new era. Pete
was also in Azag-Thoth who were another one of the earliest extreme
metal bands from the UK, and are surely familiar to tape traders and
fanatics of the time period. Azag-Thoth featured both Shane Embury and
Wayne Aston from Warhammer (widely acknowledged as the first UK band to
play death metal) while Shane was playing in Napalm Death at the same
After Azag-Thoth came to a close, Pete teamed up with Shane
Embury again in Unseen Terror along with Mitch Dickinson (Antichrist,
Sacrilege, Heresy, etc.). Mick Harris (Napalm Death, Doom, Extreme Noise
Terror) also did time in Unseen Terror as well. In more recent years,
Pete has played in Flyblown (who released a split 7" with Disclose from
Japan) and Realities of War (a Discharge influenced band with one EP).
Needless to say, Pete has a ton of anecdotal information to share, and
his experiences documented in the interview below make for a great read.
interview was conducted as a co-interview with my buddy Alan from the
Glorious Times book and blog. His blog can be seen here:
. If you haven't checked
out the Glorious Times book, i can't recommend it highly enough. It
documents what i would describe as the "tape trading and fanzine years"
of the burgeoning international death metal scene -- basically 1985
through the early '90s. There's a wealth of excellent information
contained within it, interesting first hand accounts, unpublished
photos, and more than enough cross appeal and coverage of hardcore punk
(Cryptic Slaughter, Massappeal, Napalm Death, Terrorain, Unseen Terror,
and more) to make it a necessity to check out. So thanks to Alan for all
Last thing, i've posted two interviews from my first
zine that i did in the 1990s on my blog thing at
. One is an interview with Out Cold
and the other is an interview with A Global Threat. Both are very
superficial and with typical teenage punk questions representative of
the era. But if you grew up during this time (looking at you Max, Doom,
Quix, etc), then you now what it was like.
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Here's what's in stock now:
E.A.T.E.R. - "Doomsday Troops" 7" on Loud Punk Records $5.00
Punk Records is proud to bring you the long over due reissue of one of
the Holy Grail's of Swedish punk. In 1983 Ernst And The Edsholm Rebels
released their first EP "Doomsday Troops" themselves and raised a quite a
bit of interest worldwide, Though they recorded 2 other EP's this
turned out to be their only release of the 80's before disbanding in
1989, Though in 2010 they reunited and since released the fantastic "If
Nothing's Right..." EP. Over they years this has become one of the most
collectible punk records to be released from the country of Sweden. You
no long have to sell your station wagon in order to obtain a copy of
this certified ripper. Remastered by Jack Control at Enormous Door
Studios and sounding better then ever!" -Chris/Loud Punk Records
Formby Channel - "Saucy Seaside" 7" on Noise Punk Records $6.00
EP from this not very serious British act. "While the first 7" felt
like (/was?) a collection of inside jokes taken to their farthest (and
that's no complaint, the first 7" was amazing), this feels like a more
fully-encapsulated mid-tempo rocking noise punk experience akin to
hopping along a nude beach with a giant boner and a huge grin on your
face. Stronger songs, stronger sound, more universal concept, more
ukulele, and that layout......
If you are into noisy punk and plan on
going to the beach anytime soon....I would HIGHLY recommend buying this
record, making a tape of it, and just walking around the beach naked
with this thing blasting on repeat through your ghetto blaster and
singing along as obnoxiously as possible. Perfect soundtrack to your
super happy fun time punk shenanigans. Everything about this record is
fucking FUN." -Dan/SPHC
Merciless Game - "Genjitsu Wo Kutabare" 8" on SPHC $8.00
Game is a project band started as a solo endeavor by one dedicated
individual and currently featuring members of xBrainiax, Lotus Fucker,
and Chaos Destroy. Negative and spiteful noise punk a la Dust Noise,
Screaming Noise, Expose, etc. Primitive and brutal. This band is an
interesting duality for me, because artistically it channels all my
depression, alienation, and cynicism, while personally it represents a
strong bond of friendship and respect to one of my best friends, who
unfortunately lives 9 hours away from me. Recorded in a few hours in
December 2010 by noise scientist Mike Walls, sat on for a year so the
world could prepare." -SPHC
Listen a little: http://soundcloud.com/sphc
i'm not gonna bullshit here. I've had a long standing dislike of most
things tagged 'noisepunk' since the subgenre saw a large boom in renewed
popularity in the mid 2000s. With that said, i think Zach, who is the
main song writer behind Merciless Game, does this project with an
immense amount of attention to detail, sincerity, and focus to the
nuances and characteristics that made the originators special. And
that's what i respect about this record. There's just a ton of focus and
care for authenticity in it. So if you're into bands like Dust Noise,
Screaming Noise, Dislike, and similar acts, definitely check this out.
Noisecat - "雑音猫行進曲" 7" on Detonate Records $5.50
don't know what to tell you guys about this record. I'm not into it.
Noisepunk that sounds nothing like the Wankys to me or Chaos UK. Not my
bag, and i don't want to be misleading. These guys come from Japan, and
this record is out of print.
Wankys - "Poundland" 7" on Noise Punk Records $5.50
is the 2012 EP by these Japanese noise makers containing ex-members of
the Varukers, Extreme Noise Terror, and Dirge (what a fucking line up!).
Noisy punk influenced by Japanese bands and a little bit of Disorder in
there as well. UK import.
Zmiv - "Banzai! Here's Zmiv Beware" 7" $13.00
spent a lot of time lauding this band to just about anyone who would
listen. HIGHLY recommended. From Holland, Zmiv originally self released
this EP in 1982. This is what European thrash is all about to me.
Combining various influences from the UK and US, Zmiv was able to write
an incredibly catchy, urgent sounding, and intense debut EP with melodic
touches and leads that make sure the songs stick in your head forever. I
really can't recommend this record highly enough. Apologies for the
high price, but it was an expensive European import. For more
information, check out their page on Kill From The Heart here:
Active Minds/Satanic Malfunctions $14.00
edition European tour 12". This is a one-sided LP featuring six new
songs from each band, released for the recent European tour. Only 255
copies pressed, and there won't be any more. We still have a few left -
get it quick if you want it. When they're gone, they're gone."
-Bobs/Loony Tunes Records
Interesting release here. Active Minds and
Satanic Malfunctions are both two man bands that first formed in
England in the mid 1980s. Previously, members of both bands had all
played together in a band called SAS which released a raging 7" in 1985
called "Suave And Sophisticated". After that release, the members
splintered off forming both Active Minds and Satanic Malfunctions.
Active Minds continued through today with an excellent and extensive
catalog of releases. However Satanic Malfunctions broke up around 1990,
and these are their first new recordings since then. This LP was
recorded by Bri from Doom at the 1in12 Club studio and released as a
tour record for their 2013 European tour. There were only 255 copies
made, and it is a one sided record with each band alternating songs. All
in all, this is a cool release, and it's great to see new Satanic
Malfunctions material after all this time.
AI - "The Sounds of Hearts" LP on Feral Ward $9.00
nicely done LP here by Feral Ward that compiles the "Arming Rebellion
With The Sounds Of Hearts" 7" (Bloodsucker Records, 1998) and the "A
Hope On The Concrete" LP (Bloodsucker Records, 2000). Both of the
original records have been out of print and unavailable for some time,
and Feral Ward, as always, does a nice job with this release and making
them available again. AI plays a style of hardcore similar to bands like
Warhead, Nightmare, Death Side, and Crude.
Hard Skin - "On The Balls" LP on Feral Ward $13.00
of the two Hard Skin LPs released in 2013. The best contemporary Oi!
band going in my opinion. This one carries on with similar themes as
passed releases: drinking, women, police, and class. Very well done, as
Meanwhile - "Reality Or Nothing" LP on Feral Ward $9.00
LP. Formerly known as Dischange, after a line up change they switched
the name to Meanwhile. Featuring members of No Security, Totalitär,
Disfear, Krigshot, and a slew of others. Rampaging Discharge influenced
Nightfall - "Fear" LP on Shogun Recordings $12.00
of Philadelphia, Nightfall has already released two 7" back in 2006
(self-published) and 2010 (Fake Vomit / Diversity Recs) that set them
ahead of their time, or at least originators of the Raw Punk spirit come
back. You can hear their love for Japanese / Swedish Hardcore, but they
also add their own brand of powerful noise to the mix. Recent bands
like Mauser, Framtid and Desperat doesn’t sound so different. The new
album contains 15 songs and the band will play it all over the East
Coast soon." -Phil/Shogun Recordings
Wankys - "Noise Punk Live Hero Swindle" LP on Noise Punk Records $14.00
is the 2011 LP by these Japanese noise makers containing ex-members of
the Varukers, Extreme Noise Terror, and Dirge (what a fucking line up!).
Noisy punk influenced by Japanese bands and a little bit of Disorder in
there as well. UK import.
Here's what should be in for the next update (DO NOT ORDER YET):
The Apostles - "The Acts Of The Apostles In The Theatre Of Fear" LP on Acid Stings $12.00
stock copies of this 1988 anarcho punk release. For anyone unfamiliar
with the Apostles, they were one of the most outspoken and true
'anarcho' bands of the entire peace punk era. Originally formed in 1980,
The Apostles were true anarchists in the most sincere form of the word.
They were beholden to no scene, rejected the uniformity and rigidity of
the confines of punk, and were extremely outspoken members of the
community. Because of their true independence they won over many fans
(including the members of Crass), yet also faced their share of
detractors. For further information on the band, i recommend checking
their biography on Wikipedia here:
or their Discogs
page here: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Apostles%2C+The+%283%29
that said, this LP was originally released on the Acid Stings label
(Astronauts, Hellbastard). While this LP didn't come out until 1988, the
vast majority of the songs were written during the earlier period of
the band between 1980-1983. The remaining songs were written in 1985 and
1986. Due to this fact, the band considered this album to be their
third proper album chronologically despite the fact that it was released
after their fifth LP. With that said, the music is as high a quality
and lyrically vicious as the best Apostles material. The Apostles truly
were not afraid to take on any topics, and that's firmly on display here
with a song entitled "Fucking Queer" from a period long before
homosexuality and gay rights became an accepted progressive cause. The
layout to the LP is fantastic as well with complete thought provoking
lyrics, interesting and detailed artwork (and comics!), and an overall
feeling that a fucking ton of thought and effort went into this release.
This is the type of thing Andy Martin and the Apostles were known for,
and i think this release is a quality anarcho punk album that still
holds up very well.
Pete Giles interview conducted in July of 2013.
Napalm: Early on in your musical career, you played in the hardcore
punk band Insight featuring a vocalist John, who had previously been in
the anarcho band Hagar The Womb. Was this your first real band, and how
did you come to be in it?
Pete Giles: No it wasn't, in fact Insight
was only ever a side project for me because John at the time was also
playing bass in Harmony as One. Harmony as One was my principle band
having been formed in '89 with Martin Daniels on drums (who would go and
play in both incarnations of Scalplock and Darren Livermore on bass
(who also played in Long Cold Stare). And then before that my first band
was Azag-Thoth, which Harmony as One came out of.
SN: You were
involved with Antichrist who, along with Warhammer, are remembered as
one of the earliest extreme metal bands from the UK. How did you end up
jamming with Antichrist, and can you please explain who was in the line
up and how it came to be? I've heard it featured members of AYS and
Heresy? (Example: can you please talk also about the guy Jason on vocals
who was thanked in the Slayer record?)
PG: Well I was friends with
Jason, we were part of the same group of friends who hung out in London
at weekends. For me at least Jason introduced me to some really crazy
music at the time, most notable was Current 93. That blew my mind when I
heard it. We used to cut up and sample tracks on our tape players and
then send what we had done to each other, although that was slightly
later, maybe '85. Anyway, it was mentioned he was going to rehearse with
the drummer Rim from AYS and this French guy Carl who was going to play
bass, and he asked me if I fancied trying out on guitar. Of course I
wanted to do try out but could I actually play guitar? Had I ever been
in a rehearsal room? Did I understand timing? Or did I even own a guitar
at the time? Well to all these questions there's only one answer: NO!!
Anyway I tried out but it was an absolute disaster, I simply couldn't
play. It was only later and totally unrelated to anything I was doing
that Jason would enter Rich Bitch studio in '87 to record alongside
Unseen Terror and Heresy a couple of tracks for the Bailey Brothers
comp. That was the only time Jason recorded Antichrist properly from
what I recall.
SN: Was there other Antichrist material recorded
other than the two songs on "The Baily Brothers Present Diminished
Responsibility" compilation LP?
PG: Not as far as I am aware.
SN: What happened to Antichrist after the comp songs were recorded?
PG: There was some talk of Earache doing a release but it came to nothing.
Mitch was talking a couple years back about possibly pressing the
Warhammer stuff to a limited edition vinyl, asking folks who'd buy it
because that would determine if the project moved forward. Did you know
about that, and if so, what ever happened to the project -- Mitch hasn't
publicly mentioned it again.
PG: No, sorry, I am neither in contact with Mitch or knew about this announcement.
How did Azag-Thoth come about? What was the original line up, and how
did you meet Shane and Wayne? Did you know them through tape trading or
PG: Azag-thoth was born in late '84 early '85. I
bought my bass rig in '84 and wanted to do a band. I eventually roped in
a couple of mates Rich on guitar and a drummer who I just don't
remember the name of right now. The band existed as this across the
summer of '85 and we recorded the "Death Creed" demo. Then as quickly as
it had assembled it fell apart with the others, who weren't really into
that kind of music anyway, leaving the band. Fast forward to '87 where I
was still looking to find new members, when I saw an advert in Kerrang
from Wayne saying he needed a bass player, while of course I needed a
guitarist. So I phoned him up and said "Hey, I have this band I want to
start again would you be interested?" and the rest as they say is
history. Upon traveling up to Bridgenorth it wasn't long before I was
introduced to Shane who had just started to rehearse with Napalm Death.
Soon after first meeting he offered to help Wayne and myself out by
drumming for Azag-Thoth.
SN: Azagthoth could have quite easily
become more of a corner-stone band than people today realize, if you
released something beyond the demos. Sort of like Majesty which until
the internet and lots of back tracking most fans of L.A. grind and in
particular Nausea and Terrorizer didn't even know were all three
connected. What went wrong? Was it simply money, lack of a label, or
members wanting to move on that was the reason Azagthoth never went that
next step further?
PG: There are lots of reasons why it never
happened for the band. First and foremost we were considered too
extreme. I even have a letter from Metal Blade saying I don't think
people are ready for this extreme kind of music, whereas Earache said it
was too metal!!! Secondly, Shane's drumming is fuckin' atrocious, I
don't think we would have been taken seriously because of it. Then there
was the commitment issue, Shane was doing Napalm and Unseen Terror, and
it came to be a bit of a competition between Unseen Terror and
Azag-Thoth on who was going to write the fastest riff. Then Wayne
wasn't really into the kind of music we were playing, he wanted to play
Manowar barbarian music which I wasn't into at all. Then there was the
distance issue, I lived around 150 miles away from Shane and Wayne and
consequently it was only a matter of time before I said bollox.
There's next to nothing currently circulating from Azag-Thoth beyond
the demos ("Death Creed" and "Shredded Flesh"), can't recall if any
rehearsals made it onto the tape trading circuit in the 1980's - did you
guys leak those rehearsals at all or are they stashed with some
ex-member?...provided the tapes were even recorded that is.
may have a rehearsal tape, but I haven't found any. I thought I might
have found a rehearsal tape from '85 but it wouldn't play properly. So I
doubt there is anything else out there.
SN: You mentioned
previously that with Azag-Thoth you had interest from Motorhead's
management. Can you please elaborate on this and what exactly
PG: Malcom Dome put them onto me, but once I sent them the demo I never heard from them again.
SN: After Azag-Thoth garnered so much interest, what were the circumstances causing the band to come to an end?
PG: Distance and commitment. At the same time while the band was in existence we didn't garner very much of anything.
How did you go from Azag-Thoth to starting Unseen Terror? Was Wayne
Aston (Warhammer, Azag-Thoth) an original member of Unseen Terror, and
why did he leave the band?
PG: I have kinda covered this above. So
after I was in Unseen terror, Wayne started playing bass for them with
Micky Harris singing.
SN: What was it like recording a session
for John Peel, and can you please recount the experience? Was John
Peel's radio show a big influence on you?
PG: That wasn't me, that was Wayne who did the John Peel session. I had been out of the band for a while by then.
You're pictured on the Unseen Terror 12", but you didn't actually get
to play on it. What is the story behind you not ending up on the record?
Where I was working wouldn't give me the time off. I had been
rehearsing hard for the recording but was still under prepared because
of the short amount of time I had been in the band before the recording
SN: I've heard rumor of Mitch writing three new
Unseen Terror tracks supposedly. Do you know if there's any truth to
this, and were you involved at all? Would you consider reforming Unseen
PG: I do believe there is some new material that Mitch has
written and I know that Shane and Mitch have spoken about going out and
playing some live shows. However I was never involved in this
discussion. I am after all nothing more than an incidental footnote when
it comes to discussing Unseen Terror. I am 100% certain they wouldn't
ask me to play with them especially since I am not in contact with
either of them.
SN: What was it like being on Earache Records in
the early days with bands like Carcass, Napalm Death, Heresy, and
others. Did you feel an affinity with the others or an excitement about
what was going on?
PG: I don't know if there was any affinity. Heresy
hated Unseen Terror. Steve, their drummer, had an Unseen Terror
sticker on the toilet seat so he could piss on it every time he went for
a piss. I loved Heresy more than any of the other bands, although I
never actually got to see them but saw Napalm a number of times.
When Unseen Terror came to an end, you reunited with old friend John
from Insight to form Harmony As One and even had Mitch Dickinson try
out. What is the story behind Harmony As One and how that band came to
be, and how did it differ from your previous bands?
PG: No that's
wrong, it was Darren Livermore who played bass first and then John came
along a lot later. Harmony as One was a massive departure from
Azag-Thoth in so many ways. I grew tired of singing gore-torture
orientated songs, I wasn't listening to any death metal by the end of
the band, my influences for starting HAO were straight edge bands like
Straight Ahead and Unity, and Uniform Choice, and No for an Answer.
Bands who had a social conscious. I was by now playing guitar and I
wanted to play hardcore and had absolutely no interest in metal.
With so many people from bands that you were involved with and
traveling in your circle, did you ever try out or have any interest in
being in Napalm Death? Was the opportunity ever presented to you?
PG: There was never an opportunity to try out, it would have been fun to have a go.
SN: Are you still in touch with Shane Embury, Wayne Aston, or Mitch Dickinson at this point?
Having a hand in the formation of the extreme music scene in the UK
(which was therefore part of the world-wide phenomenon) -- what do you
think back to most fondly from that pioneering era?
PG: How exciting
it was to hear new more extreme music. It was so vibrant and you never
really knew what to expect next. Of course that couldn't last and by '88
most of the extreme music had already become quite derivative.
Any particular bands, both home and abroad, which really spoke to you
back then through their demos etc and encouraged you to keep doing
things? Asking about the underground here, not the bands that had
already gotten deals and had records out like the usuals
Slayer/Kreator/Bathory etc etc etc.
PG: None that I can remember.
In more recent years, you've been active in DIY bands Scalplock and
Realities of War. Can you please discuss both bands and what they were
PG: Scalplock was the next logical step from Harmony as One.
This was the most extreme band I ever did, politically and musically we
really pushed at the boundaries. When Spread the Germs Over the Human
Worms came out it caused such outrage that it was called at the time
the modern version of the Sex Pistol's "God Save the Queen". We also had
real difficulty getting it printed because of the political content. It
went to 8 different printing presses before the label eventually found
someone who would print it. Realities of War was nothing but a small
side project that lasted a few months doing classic Swedish punk meets
Discharge meets Flux of Pink Indians. We played a few shows and it was
great fun but again there were commitment issues so that came to an end
soon after we formed.
SN: Can you reflect at all on what it used to be like during that era compared to, say the last 20 years?
Well it is difficult to reflect on this, but was it better? Well of
course it was, because it was so fresh. It's incredibly difficult to
push at the boundaries anymore. That would be the one thing that stays
with me and the attendance at shows which was much better than it is now
in our digital age where everything is available at a click of a
SN: Do you still try to weed through the bands today
trying to find that diamond in the rough that can sock it to you...?
It's so difficult because the volume of bands is extremely heavy now
compared to the 1980's and the selection isn't noted for it's
PG: No I don't, I really have no interest in what bands
are doing nowadays. I tend to listen to older music and I have no love
for most of the shit that's out there now.
SN: What are you up to these days? Are you still actively involved in playing in any bands?
Yes, I continue to play in a band with my wife, it’s a two piece band
called Pombagira. Super heavy and psyched out progressively long songs
that melt the mind. The extreme thing has remained with me since I now I
tend to use 7-10 amps at once, downtune to A, use baritone strings and
destroy people's hearing. With regards to other things I am now doing, I
am now a writer for an American occult publisher.